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St. George Stock (modern guide) · 1850–1922

A Guide to Stoicism 3 ¶2 — St. George Stock (modern guide)

From “Logic”

Original English text (1908)

St. George Stock (modern guide), A Guide to Stoicism 3 ¶2

But if the Stoics were strong in logic they were weak in rhetoric. This strength and weakness were characteristic of the school at all periods. Cato is the only Roman Stoic to whom Cicero accords the praise of real eloquence. In the dying accents of the school as we hear them in Marcus Aurelius the imperial sage counts it a thing to be thankful for that he had learnt to abstain from rhetoric, poetic, and elegance of diction. The reader however cannot help wishing that he had taken some means to diminish the crabbedness of his style. If a lesson were wanted in the importance of sacrificing to the Graces it might be found in the fact that the early Stoic writers despite their logical subtlety have all perished and that their remains have to be sought for so largely in the pages of Cicero. In speaking of logic as one of the three departments of philosophy we must bear in mind that the term was one of much wider meaning than it is with us. It included rhetoric, poetic, and grammar as well as dialectic or logic proper, to say nothing of disquisitions on the senses and the intellect which we should now refer to psychology.
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St. George Stock, Stoicism (1908), text of the Haldeman-Julius reprint “A Guide to Stoicism”. Text: Project Gutenberg #7514. Sources and licences

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The Stoics were strong in logic but weak at eloquence, and even Marcus Aurelius was grateful to have avoided rhetoric and ornate style, though his writing is hard going. The ancient idea of logic was broad, covering rhetoric, poetry, grammar and the study of perception.

Older wording

“crabbedness”
— harsh, cramped awkwardness
“Graces”
— the goddesses of charm and beauty
“dialectic”
— the art of reasoned argument

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  • Speech and silence
  • Learning and progress

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