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St. George Stock (modern guide) · 1850–1922

A Guide to Stoicism 5 ¶5–6 — St. George Stock (modern guide)

From “Physic”

Original English text (1908)

St. George Stock (modern guide), A Guide to Stoicism 5 ¶5–6

The Stoics, it will be observed, used the term "matter" with the same confusing ambiguity with which we use it ourselves, now for sensible objects which have shape and other qualities, now for the abstract conception of matter, which is devoid of all qualities. Both these first principles, it must be understood, were conceived of as bodies, though without form, the one everywhere interpenetrating the other. To say that the passive principle, or matter, is a body comes easy to us, because of the familiar confusion adverted to above. But how could the active principle, or God, be conceived of as a body? The answer to this question may sound paradoxical. It is because God is a spirit. A spirit in its original sense meant air in motion. Now the active principle was not air, but it was something which bore an analogy to it--namely aether. Aether in motion might be called a 'spirit' as well as air in motion. It was in this sense that Chrysippus defined the thing that is, to be a spirit moving itself into and out of itself, or spirit moving itself to and fro.
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St. George Stock, Stoicism (1908), text of the Haldeman-Julius reprint “A Guide to Stoicism”. Text: Project Gutenberg #7514. Sources and licences

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Both first principles were counted as bodies that pass through each other, which sounds odd for God until you know that spirit originally meant moving air. The active principle was a fine fiery substance like air, so God could be thought of as a spirit moving through the world.

Older wording

“aether”
— the fine fiery substance of the upper heavens
“interpenetrating”
— passing through one another

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