Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 1.11 ¶3 — Epictetus
From “Of Natural Affection”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 1.11 ¶3
“Well then, was it nothing which moved you and induced you to desert your child? and how is that possible? But it might be something of the kind which moved a man at Rome to wrap up his head while a horse was running which he favored; and when contrary to expectation the horse won, he required sponges to recover from his fainting fit. What then is the thing which moved? The exact discussion of this does not belong to the present occasion perhaps; but it is enough to be convinced of this, if what the philosophers say is true, that we must not look for it anywhere without, but in all cases it is one and the same thing which is the cause of our doing or not doing something, of saying or not saying something, of being elated or depressed, of avoiding anything or pursuing: the very thing which is now the cause to me and to you, to you of coming to me and sitting and hearing, and to me of saying what I do say. And what is this? Is it any other than our will to do so? No other. But if we had willed otherwise, what else should we have been doing than that which we willed to do? This then was the cause of Achilles’ lamentation, not the death of Patroclus; for another man does not behave thus on the death of his companion; but it was because he chose to do so. And to you this was the very cause of your then running away, that you chose to do so; and on the other side, if you should (hereafter) stay with her, the reason will be the same. And now you are going to Rome because you choose; and if you should change your mind, you will not go thither. And in a word, neither death nor exile nor pain nor anything of the kind is the cause of our doing anything or not doing; but our own opinions and our wills (δόγματα).
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Epictetus, Discourses 1.11 ¶3, tr. George Long (1877)
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AI-written notesWhatever we do or avoid, and whenever we feel lifted up or cast down, the real cause is our own choice and opinion rather than the external event. Death, exile and pain do not force our actions; what we think about them does, and that part is up to us.
Older wording
- “δόγματα”
- — settled opinions or convictions
- “will”
- — your capacity to choose and judge
Themes and situations
- Judgements and impressions
- What is in our control
- Emotions and the passions
- Grief and mourning
- Anxiety about the future
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