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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 1.18 ¶2 — Epictetus

From “That We Ought Not to Be Angry with the Errors (Faults) of Others”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 1.18 ¶2

Ought not then this robber and this adulterer to be destroyed? By no means say so, but speak rather in this way: This man who has been mistaken and deceived about the most important things, and blinded, not in the faculty of vision which distinguishes white and black, but in the faculty which distinguishes good and bad, should we not destroy him? If you speak thus, you will see how inhuman this is which you say, and that it is just as if you would say, “Ought we not to destroy this blind and deaf man?” But if the greatest harm is the privation of the greatest things, and the greatest thing in every man is the will or choice such as it ought to be, and a man is deprived of this will, why are you also angry with him? Man, you ought not to be affected contrary to nature by the bad things of another. Pity him rather: drop this readiness to be offended and to hate, and these words which the many utter: “these accursed and odious fellows.” How have you been made so wise at once? and how are you so peevish? Why then are we angry? Is it because we value so much the things of which these men rob us? Do not admire your clothes, and then you will not be angry with the thief. Do not admire the beauty of your wife, and you will not be angry with the adulterer. Learn that a thief and an adulterer have no place in the things which are yours, but in those which belong to others and which are not in your power. If you dismiss these things and consider them as nothing, with whom are you still angry? But so long as you value these things, be angry with yourself rather than with the thief and the adulterer. Consider the matter thus: you have fine clothes; your neighbour has not: you have a window; you wish to air the clothes. The thief does not know wherein man’s good consists, but he thinks that it consists in having fine clothes, the very thing which you also think. Must he not then come and take them away? When you show a cake to greedy persons, and swallow it all yourself, do you expect them not to snatch it from you? Do not provoke them: do not have a window: do not air your clothes. I also lately had an iron lamp placed by the side of my household gods: hearing a noise at the door, I ran down, and found that the lamp had been carried off. I reflected that he who had taken the lamp had done nothing strange. What then? Tomorrow, I said, you will find an earthen lamp: for a man only loses that which he has. I have lost my garment. The reason is that you had a garment. I have pain in my head. Have you any pain in your horns? Why then are you troubled? for we only lose those things, we have only pains about those things which we possess.
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Anger at a thief or a cheat rests on how much we prize what they take, and the blind and mistaken deserve pity, not hatred. We can only lose what we possess, so valuing fewer outside things shields us from loss and from rage, and a stolen lamp is only a reminder that tomorrow's will be earthenware.

Older wording

“privation”
— the loss or lack of something
“peevish”
— irritable and easily annoyed
“household gods”
— small statues of protective gods kept in a Roman home

Themes and situations

  • Anger
  • Kindness and forgiveness
  • What is in our control
  • Wealth and poverty
  • Desire and craving
  • Being angry with someone
  • Losing money
  • Being treated unfairly
  • Money, status and wanting more

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