Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 1.2 ¶6–7 — Epictetus
From “How a Man on Every Occasion Can Maintain His Proper Character”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 1.2 ¶6–7
In this way an athlete also acted who was in danger of dying unless his private parts were amputated. His brother came to the athlete, who was a philosopher, and said, “Come, brother, what are you going to do? Shall we amputate this member and return to the gymnasium?” But the athlete persisted in his resolution and died. When someone asked Epictetus how he did this, as an athlete or a philosopher? As a man, Epictetus replied, and a man who had been proclaimed among the athletes at the Olympic games and had contended in them, a man who had been familiar with such a place, and not merely anointed in Baton’s school. Another would have allowed even his head to be cut off, if he could have lived without it. Such is that regard to character which is so strong in those who have been accustomed to introduce it of themselves and conjoined with other things into their deliberations. “Come then, Epictetus, shave yourself.” If I am a philosopher, I answer, I will not shave myself. “But I will take off your head!” If that will do you any good, take it off.
Cite this passage
Epictetus, Discourses 1.2 ¶6–7, tr. George Long (1877)
https://whatwouldstoicsdo.com/passage/discourses/1.2.6
Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesAn athlete who was also a philosopher refused to give up his integrity even when told that otherwise he would die, and Epictetus praised this as acting as a man, not merely as an athlete or philosopher. Those who have the habit of weighing their character in every decision, even to the point of refusing demands that would cost their head, show how strongly that regard for character can run.
Older wording
- “amputated”
- — surgically cut off
- “gymnasium”
- — a public training ground for athletes
Themes and situations
- Virtue and character
- Courage
- Death and mortality