Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 1.25 ¶2 — Epictetus
From “On the Same”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 1.25 ¶2
“But give me directions.” Why should I give you directions? has not Zeus given you directions? Has he not given to you what is your own, free from hindrance and free from impediment, and what is not your own, subject to hindrance and impediment? What directions then, what kind of orders did you bring when you came from him? Keep by every means what is your own; do not desire what belongs to others. Fidelity (integrity) is your own, virtuous shame is your own; who then can take these things from you? who else than yourself will hinder you from using them? But how do you act? When you seek what is not your own, you lose that which is your own. Having such promptings and commands from Zeus, what kind do you still ask from me? Am I more powerful than he, am I more worthy of confidence? But if you observe these, do you want any others besides? “Well, but he has not given these orders,” you will say. Produce your precognitions (προλήψεις), produce the proofs of philosophers, produce what you have often heard, and produce what you have said yourself, produce what you have read, produce what you have meditated on; and you will then see that all these things are from God. How long then is it fit to observe these precepts from God, and not to break up the play? As long as the play is continued with propriety. In the Saturnalia a king is chosen by lot, for it has been the custom to play at this game. The king commands: Do you drink, Do you mix the wine, Do you sing, Do you go, Do you come. I obey that the game may not be broken up through me.—But if he says, “think that you are in evil plight,” I answer, “I do not think so; and who will compel me to think so?” Further, we agreed to play Agamemnon and Achilles. He who is appointed to play Agamemnon says to me, “Go to Achilles and tear from him Briseis.” I go. He says, “Come,” and I come.
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Epictetus, Discourses 1.25 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)
https://whatwouldstoicsdo.com/passage/discourses/1.25.2
Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesYou already have all the guidance you need: keep what is truly yours, such as integrity and a sense of honour, and do not chase what belongs to others, since seeking it costs you what you own. Play whatever role is assigned to you well and cooperate with the game, as in a festival king-for-a-day, but your own judgement of whether you are in a bad way stays your own.
Older wording
- “Saturnalia”
- — a Roman midwinter festival with games and role reversals
- “προλήψεις”
- — natural, shared basic ideas
- “virtuous shame”
- — a sense of honour that stops you doing wrong
Themes and situations
- What is in our control
- Virtue and character
- Duty and roles
- Acceptance and fate
- Judgements and impressions
- A difficult boss
- An ethical dilemma
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