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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 2.2 ¶3 — Epictetus

From “Of Tranquillity (Freedom from Perturbation)”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 2.2 ¶3

But if you wish to maintain externals also—your poor body, your little property and your little estimation—I advise you to make from this moment all possible preparation, and then consider both the nature of your judge and your adversary. If it is necessary to embrace his knees, embrace his knees; if to weep, weep; if to groan, groan. For when you have subjected to externals what is your own, then be a slave and do not resist, and do not sometimes choose to be a slave, and sometimes not choose, but with all your mind be one or the other, either free or a slave, either instructed or uninstructed, either a well bred cock or a mean one, either endure to be beaten until you die or yield at once; and let it not happen to you to receive many stripes and then to yield. But if these things are base, determine immediately. Where is the nature of evil and good? It is where truth is: where truth is and where nature is, there is caution: where truth is, there is courage where nature is.
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Epictetus, Discourses 2.2 ¶3, tr. George Long (1877)

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If you decide your body, property and reputation must be protected at all costs, prepare fully and be willing to beg; but you cannot be half free and half servile. Choose whether you serve outside things or your own integrity and be consistent, rather than resisting for a while and then giving in after suffering.

Older wording

“externals”
— things outside your own mind and choices
“stripes”
— lashes from a whip
“well bred cock”
— a fighting rooster of good stock, a symbol of spirit

Themes and situations

  • What is in our control
  • Courage
  • Freedom
  • Virtue and character
  • Resilience and endurance
  • A difficult boss
  • A hard decision
  • Being treated unfairly

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