Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 2.21 ¶2 — Epictetus
From “Of Inconsistency”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 2.21 ¶2
Living then among such men, who are so confused, so ignorant of what they say, and of the evils which they have or have not, and why they have them, or how they shall be relieved of them, I think it is worth the trouble for a man to watch constantly (and to ask) whether I also am one of them, what imagination I have about myself, how I conduct myself, whether I conduct myself as a prudent man, whether I conduct myself as a temperate man, whether I ever say this: that I have been taught to be prepared for everything that may happen. Have I the consciousness which a man who knows nothing ought to have, that I know nothing? Do I go to my teacher as men go to oracles, prepared to obey? or do I like a snivelling boy go to my school to learn history and understand the books which I did not understand before, and, if it should happen so, to explain them also to others?—Man, you have had a fight in the house with a poor slave, you have turned the family upside down, you have frightened the neighbours, and you come to me as if you were a wise man, and you take your seat and judge how I have explained some word, and how I have babbled whatever came into my head. You come full of envy, and humbled, because you bring nothing from home; and you sit during the discussion thinking of nothing else than how your father is disposed towards you and your brother. “What are they saying about me there? now they think that I am improving, and are saying, ‘He will return with all knowledge.’ I wish I could learn everything before I return: but much labor is necessary, and no one sends me anything, and the baths at Nicopolis are dirty; everything is bad at home, and bad here.”
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Epictetus, Discourses 2.21 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)
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Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesSurrounded by confusion about good and evil, it is worth checking constantly whether you are caught in it too: do you come to learn humbly, or to look clever? The example is a student who quarrels with a servant, arrives envious and anxious about what his family thinks, and complains about the baths while believing he is improving.
Older wording
- “oracles”
- — sacred places where gods were consulted for guidance
Themes and situations
- Learning and progress
- Pride and humility
- Envy and comparison
- Family and love
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