Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 2.23 ¶8 — Epictetus
From “On the Power of Speaking”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 2.23 ¶8
Man, your purpose (business) was to make yourself capable of using comformably to nature the appearances presented to you, in your desires not to be frustrated, in your aversion from things not to fall into that which you would avoid, never to have no luck (as one may say), nor ever to have bad luck, to be free, not hindered, not compelled, conforming yourself to the administration of Zeus, obeying it, well satisfied with this, blaming no one, charging no one with fault, able from your whole soul to utter these verses Lead me, O Zeus, and thou too Destiny. Then having this purpose before you, if some little form of expression pleases you, if some theorems please you, do you abide among them and choose to dwell there, forgetting the things at home, and do you say, “These things are fine?” Who says that they are not fine? but only as being a way home, as inns are. For what hinders you from being an unfortunate man, even if you speak like Demosthenes? and what prevents you, if you can resolve syllogisms like Chrysippus, from being wretched, from sorrowing, from envying, in a word, from being disturbed, from being unhappy? Nothing. You see then that these were inns, worth nothing; and that the purpose before you was something else. When I speak thus to some persons, they think that I am rejecting care about speaking or care about theorems. But I am not rejecting this care, but I am rejecting the abiding about these things incessantly and putting our hopes in them. If a man by this teaching does harm to those who listen to him, reckon me too among those who do this harm: for I am not able, when I see one thing which is most excellent and supreme, to say that another is so, in order to please you.
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Epictetus, Discourses 2.23 ¶8, tr. George Long (1877)
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AI-written notesThe real aim is to use your impressions in line with nature so your desires are not frustrated and you do not fall into what you fear, accepting how things unfold and blaming no one. Skill with words or theory is only a way home, and it does not stop you being miserable, envious or disturbed, so do not mistake the means for the end.
Older wording
- “appearances”
- — the impressions things make on your mind
- “aversion”
- — what you try to avoid or fear
- “theorems”
- — doctrines or propositions
Themes and situations
- What is in our control
- Acceptance and fate
- Learning and progress
- Peace of mind
- Virtue and character
- Searching for meaning
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