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What Would Stoics Do

Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 3.1 ¶3 — Epictetus

From “Of Finery in Dress”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 3.1 ¶3

Did Socrates persuade all his hearers to take care of themselves? Not the thousandth part. But however, after he had been placed in this position by the deity, as he himself says, he never left it. But what does he say even to his judges? “If you acquit me on these conditions that I no longer do that which I do now, I will not consent and I will not desist; but I will go up both to young and to old, and, to speak plainly, to every man whom I meet, and I will ask the questions which I ask now; and most particularly will I do this to you my fellow citizens, because you are more nearly related to me.”—Are you so curious, Socrates, and such a busybody? and how does it concern you how we act? and what is it that you say? Being of the same community and of the same kin, you neglect yourself, and show yourself a bad citizen to the state, and a bad kinsman to your kinsmen, and a bad neighbour to your neighbours. Who then are you?—Here it is a great thing to say, “I am he whose duty it is to take care of men; for it is not every little heifer which dares to resist a lion; but if the bull comes up and resists him, say to the bull, if you choose, ‘and who are you, and what business have you here?’” Man, in every kind there is, produced something which excels; in oxen, in dogs, in bees, in horses. Do not then say to that which excels, “Who then are you?” If you do, it will find a voice in some way and say, “I am such a thing as the purple in a garment: do not expect me to be like the others, or blame my nature that it has made me different from the rest of men.”
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.1 ¶3, tr. George Long (1877)

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Socrates refused to give up questioning people about how to live even when his judges threatened him, because he saw it as his post and duty. Anyone with a distinctive excellence, like the purple stripe in a garment, should not be expected to be like everyone else or mocked for standing out.

Older wording

“busybody”
— someone who meddles in others' affairs
“heifer”
— a young cow
“kinsman”
— a relative

Themes and situations

  • Duty and roles
  • Community and our duty to others
  • Courage
  • Virtue and character
  • Searching for meaning

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