Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 3.2 ¶2 — Epictetus
From “In What a Man Ought to Be Exercised Who Has Made Proficiency; and That We Neglect the Chief Things”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 3.2 ¶2
The third topic is that which immediately concerns those who are making proficiency, that which concerns the security of the other two, so that not even in sleep any appearance unexamined may surprise us, nor in intoxication, nor in melancholy. This, it may be said, is above our power. But the present philosophers neglecting the first topic and the second (the affects and duties), employ themselves on the third, using sophistical arguments (μεταπίπτοντας), making conclusions from questioning, employing hypotheses, lying. For a man must, as it is said, when employed on these matters, take care that he is not deceived. Who must? The wise and good man. This then is all that is wanting to you. Have you successfully worked out the rest? Are you free from deception in the matter of money? If you see a beautiful girl, do you resist the appearance? If your neighbour obtains an estate by will, are you not vexed? Now is there nothing else wanting to you except unchangeable firmness of mind (ἀμεταπτωσία)? Wretch, you hear these very things with fear and anxiety that some person may despise you, and with inquiries about what any person may say about you. And if a man come and tell you that in a certain conversation in which the question was, “Who is the best philosopher,” a man who was present said that a certain person was the chief philosopher, your little soul which was only a finger’s length stretches out to two cubits. But if another who is present says, “You are mistaken; it is not worthwhile to listen to a certain person, for what does he know? he has only the first principles, and no more?” then you are confounded, you grow pale, you cry out immediately, “I will show him who I am, that I am a great philosopher.” It is seen by these very things: why do you wish to show it by others? Do you not know that Diogenes pointed out one of the sophists in this way: by stretching out his middle finger? And then when the man was wild with rage, “This,” he said, “is the certain person: I have pointed him out to you.” For a man is not shown by the finger, as a stone or a piece of wood; but when any person shows the man’s principles, then he shows him as a man.
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.2 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)
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In plain English
AI-written notesMany who study philosophy polish clever arguments while neglecting their own desires and duties, yet still tense up over money, temptation, a neighbour's windfall and what others think of them. Praise inflates the little self and criticism crushes it, and the urge to prove yourself shows how fragile you are; a person is revealed by their principles, not by any display.
Older wording
- “sophistical arguments”
- — tricky, misleading logical arguments
- “proficiency”
- — progress or skill
- “cubits”
- — an old unit of length, about a forearm
Themes and situations
- Reputation and others' opinions
- Pride and humility
- Learning and progress
- Insult and criticism
- Envy and comparison
- Being criticised or insulted
- Envy and comparison
- Handling success
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