Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 3.20 ¶2 — Epictetus
From “That We Can Derive Advantage from All External Things”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 3.20 ¶2
Can advantage then be derived from these things? From all; and from him who abuses you. Wherein does the man who exercises before the combat profit the athlete? Very greatly. This man becomes my exerciser before the combat: he exercises me in endurance, in keeping my temper, in mildness. You say no: but he, who lays hold of my neck and disciplines my loins and shoulders, does me good; and the exercise master (the aliptes, or oiler) does right when he says: Raise him up with both hands, and the heavier he (ἐκεῖνος) is, so much the more is my advantage. But if a man exercises me in keeping my temper, does he not do me good?—This is not knowing how to gain an advantage from men. Is my neighbour bad? Bad to himself, but good to me: he exercises my good disposition, my moderation. Is my father bad? Bad to himself, but to me good. This is the rod of Hermes: touch with it what you please, as the saying is, and it will be of gold. I say not so: but bring what you please, and I will make it good. Bring disease, bring death, bring poverty, bring abuse, bring trial on capital charges: all these things through the rod of Hermes shall be made profitable. “What will you do with death?” Why, what else than that it shall do you honor, or that it shall show you by act through it, what a man is who follows the will of nature? “What will you do with disease?” I will show its nature, I will be conspicuous in it, I will be firm, I will be happy, I will not flatter the physician, I will not wish to die. “What else do you seek?” Whatever you shall give me, I will make it happy, fortunate, honored, a thing which a man shall seek.
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.20 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)
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In plain English
AI-written notesEverything, including a person who abuses you, can be used as training: a sparring partner makes you stronger, and a difficult neighbour or parent gives you practice in patience and self-control. Like a magic rod that turns whatever it touches to gold, the right attitude turns disease, poverty, abuse or even death into something you can use well.
Older wording
- “rod of Hermes”
- — the magic staff of the god Hermes, which could turn things to gold
- “aliptes”
- — the trainer who oiled and rubbed down athletes
Themes and situations
- Adversity and hardship
- Insult and criticism
- Resilience and endurance
- Acceptance and fate
- Anger
- Being criticised or insulted
- A difficult boss
- Illness or diagnosis
- Conflict at work
- Everyday irritations
- Being angry with someone
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