Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 3.24 ¶10 — Epictetus
From “That We Ought Not to Be Moved by a Desire of Those Things Which Are Not in Our Power”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 3.24 ¶10
Let these thoughts be ready to hand by night and by day: these you should write, these you should read, about these you should talk to yourself and to others. Ask a man: “Can you help me at all for this purpose?” and further, go to another and to another. Then if anything that is said be contrary to your wish, this reflection first will immediately relieve you, that it is not unexpected. For it is a great thing in all cases to say, “I knew that I begot a son who is mortal.” For so you also will say, “I knew that I am mortal, I knew that I may leave my home, I knew that I may be ejected from it, I knew that I may be led to prison.” Then if you turn round and look to yourself, and seek the place from which comes that which has happened, you will forthwith recollect that it comes from the place of things which are out of the power of the will, and of things which are not my own. What then is it to me? Then, you will ask, and this is the chief thing: “And who is it that sent it?” The leader, or the general, the state, the law of the state. Give it me then, for I must always obey the law in everything. Then, when the appearance (of things) pains you, for it is not in your power to prevent this, contend against it by the aid of reason, conquer it: do not allow it to gain strength nor to lead you to the consequences by raising images such as it pleases and as it pleases. If you be in Gyara, do not imagine the mode of living at Rome, and how many pleasures there were for him who lived there and how many there would be for him who returned to Rome: but fix your mind on this matter, how a man who lives in Gyara ought to live in Gyara like a man of courage. And if you be in Rome, do not imagine what the life in Athens is, but think only of the life in Rome.
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.24 ¶10, tr. George Long (1877)
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Epictetus, Discourses (as recorded by Arrian), tr. George Long (1877). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesKeep the core ideas ready day and night, write them down and talk them over with others. Setbacks hurt far less if you already knew that you are mortal, that your children are mortal and that you might lose your home. When an impression hurts, fight it with reason, and wherever you are, concentrate on living well there rather than daydreaming about a better place.
Older wording
- “appearance”
- — an impression that presents itself to your mind
- “Gyara”
- — a barren Aegean island used by Romans as a place of exile
- “out of the power of the will”
- — outside your control
Themes and situations
- Preparing for difficulty
- Acceptance and fate
- What is in our control
- Exile and loss of home
- Judgements and impressions
- Moving away or exile
- Bereavement
- Anxiety about the future
- Loneliness
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