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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 3.24 ¶8 — Epictetus

From “That We Ought Not to Be Moved by a Desire of Those Things Which Are Not in Our Power”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 3.24 ¶8

What then is the discipline for this purpose? First of all the highest and the principal, and that which stands as it were at the entrance, is this: when you are delighted with anything, be delighted as with a thing which is not one of those which cannot be taken away, but as with something of such a kind, as an earthen pot is, or a glass cup, that when it has been broken, you may remember what it was, and may not be troubled. So in this matter also: if you kiss your own child, or your brother or friend, never give full license to the appearance (φαντασίαν), and allow not your pleasure to go as far as it chooses; but check it, and curb it as those who stand behind men in their triumphs and remind them that they are mortal. Do you also remind yourself in like manner, that he whom you love is mortal, and that what you love is nothing of your own: it has been given to you for the present, not that it should not be taken from you, nor has it been given to you for all time, but as a fig is given to you or a bunch of grapes at the appointed season of the year. But if you wish for these things in winter, you are a fool. So if you wish for your son or friend when it is not allowed to you, you must know that you are wishing for a fig in winter. For such as winter is to a fig, such is every event which happens from the universe to the things which are taken away according to its nature. And further, at the times when you are delighted with a thing, place before yourself the contrary appearances. What harm is it while you are kissing your child to say with a lisping voice, “Tomorrow you will die;” and to a friend also, “Tomorrow you will go away or I shall, and never shall we see one another again?”—“But these are words of bad omen.”—And some incantations also are of bad omen; but because they are useful, I don’t care for this; only let them be useful. But do you call things to be of bad omen except those which are significant of some evil? Cowardice is a word of bad omen, and meanness of spirit, and sorrow, and grief and shamelessness. These words are of bad omen: and yet we ought not to hesitate to utter them in order to protect ourselves against the things. Do you tell me that a name which is significant of any natural thing is of evil omen? Say that even for the ears of corn to be reaped is of bad omen, for it signifies the destruction of the ears, but not of the world. Say that the falling of the leaves also is of bad omen, and for the dried fig to take the place of the green fig, and for raisins to be made from the grapes. For all these things are changes from a former state into other states; not a destruction, but a certain fixed economy and administration. Such is going away from home and a small change: such is death, a greater change, not from the state which now is to that which is not, but to that which is not now.—“Shall I then no longer exist?”—You will not exist, but you will be something else, of which the world now has need: for you also came into existence not when you chose, but when the world had need of you.
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Enjoy what you love knowing it is on loan, like a clay cup that may break or a fig that is only in season, so that you are not shattered if it is lost. Remind yourself, even while kissing your child or friend, that they are mortal; this is protective, not morbid, because harvest, falling leaves and death are part of the world's orderly cycle and not destruction.

Older wording

“appearance”
— an impression that presents itself to your mind
“bad omen”
— a sign of ill luck
“incantations”
— magic spells or chants

Themes and situations

  • Change and impermanence
  • Grief and mourning
  • Death and mortality
  • Preparing for difficulty
  • Acceptance and fate
  • Bereavement
  • Parenting
  • Fear of death
  • Anxiety about the future

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