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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.4 ¶4 — Epictetus

From “To Those Who Are Desirous of Passing Life in Tranquillity”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.4 ¶4

But now we do not know that we also in another way are like the many. Another man is afraid that he shall not have power: you are afraid that you will. Do not do so, my man; but as you ridicule him who is afraid that he shall not have power, so ridicule yourself also. For it makes no difference whether you are thirsty like a man who has a fever, or have a dread of water like a man who is mad. Or how will you still be able to say as Socrates did, “If so it pleases God, so let it be?” Do you think that Socrates if he had been eager to pass his leisure in the Lyceum or in the Academy and to discourse daily with the young men, would have readily served in military expeditions so often as he did; and would he not have lamented and groaned, “Wretch that I am; I must now be miserable here, when I might be sunning myself in the Lyceum?” Why, was this your business, to sun yourself? And is it not your business to be happy, to be free from hindrance, free from impediment? And could he still have been Socrates, if he had lamented in this way: how would he still have been able to write Paeans in his prison?
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.4 ¶4, tr. George Long (1877)

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Someone terrified of not getting power and someone terrified of getting it, or of losing leisure, are making the same mistake of fearing outside things. Socrates could serve on military campaigns and compose hymns in prison because he did not cling to sunny leisure, and being happy and unhindered is your real job.

Older wording

“Paeans”
— songs of praise, especially to Apollo
“Lyceum”
— a gymnasium in Athens where philosophers taught
“Academy”
— Plato's school in Athens

Themes and situations

  • Fear and anxiety
  • Ambition and success
  • Peace of mind
  • Desire and craving
  • Courage
  • Anxiety about the future
  • A career setback

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