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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.5 ¶4 — Epictetus

From “Against the Quarrelsome and Ferocious”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.5 ¶4

Remembering this Socrates managed his own house and endured a very ill tempered wife and a foolish (ungrateful?) son. For in what did she show her bad temper? In pouring water on his head as much as she liked, and in trampling on the cake (sent to Socrates). And what is this to me, if I think that these things are nothing to me? But this is my business; and neither tyrant shall check my will nor a master; nor shall the many check me who am only one, nor shall the stronger check me who am the weaker; for this power of being free from check (hindrance) is given by God to every man. For these opinions make love in a house (family), concord in a state, among nations peace, and gratitude to God; they make a man in all things cheerful (confident) in externals as about things which belong to others, as about things which are of no value. We indeed are able to write and to read these things, and to praise them when they are read, but we do not even come near to being convinced of them. Therefore what is said of the Lacedaemonians, “Lions at home, but in Ephesus foxes,” will fit in our case also, “Lions in the school, but out of it foxes.”
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.5 ¶4, tr. George Long (1877)

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Socrates put up with a bad-tempered wife who soaked him with water and trampled his cake, because he knew her behaviour was not his business while his own response was. These ideas bring love in a household, harmony in a state and peace among nations, but we tend to be lions in the classroom and foxes outside it.

Older wording

“Lacedaemonians”
— Spartans
“externals”
— outside things beyond your control

Themes and situations

  • Family and love
  • Anger
  • What is in our control
  • Learning and progress
  • Kindness and forgiveness
  • Family conflict
  • Being angry with someone

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