Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Fragments 175 — Epictetus
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Fragments 175
What do I care, he (Epictetus) says, whether all things are composed of atoms (ἀτόμων), or of similar parts (ὁμοιομερῶν) or of fire and earth? for is it not enough to know the nature of the good and the evil, and the measures (μέτρα) of the desires and the aversions (ἐκκλίσεων), and also the movements towards things and from them; and using these as rules to administer the affairs of life, but not to trouble ourselves about the things above us? For these things are perhaps incomprehensible to the human mind: and if any man should even suppose them to be in the highest degree comprehensible, what then is the profit of them, if they are comprehended? And must we not say that those men have needless trouble who assign these things as necessary to the philosopher’s discourse? Is then also the precept written at Delphi superfluous, which is Know thyself? It is not so, he says. What then is the meaning of it? If a man gave to a choreutes (member of chorus) the precept to know himself, would he not have observed in the precept that he must direct his attention to himself?
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Epictetus, Fragments 175, tr. George Long (1877)
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In plain English
AI-written notesArguing about whether the universe is made of atoms, fire or earth is an unnecessary distraction for someone trying to live well. What matters is knowing what is truly good and bad, keeping your desires and avoidances in proportion, and using those rules to run your life. Knowing yourself means turning your attention to your own conduct.
Older wording
- “aversions”
- — the urge to avoid or push away things you dislike
- “choreutes”
- — a member of a theatre chorus
- “similar parts”
- — an ancient theory that matter is made of tiny pieces just like the whole
Themes and situations
- Learning and progress
- Virtue and character
- What is in our control
- Judgements and impressions
- Nature and the cosmos
- Searching for meaning
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