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Diogenes Laërtius · fl. 3rd century CE

Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.102 — Diogenes Laërtius on the Stoics

Translation by R. D. Hicks (1925)

Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.102

Reported speech · Diogenes Laërtius on the Stoics

Goods comprise the virtues of prudence, justice, courage, temperance, and the rest; while the opposites of these are evils, namely, folly, injustice, and the rest. Neutral (neither good nor evil, that is) are all those things which neither benefit nor harm a man: such as life, health, pleasure, beauty, strength, wealth, fair fame and noble birth, and their opposites, death, disease, pain, ugliness, weakness, poverty, ignominy, low birth, and the like. This Hecato affirms in his De fine, book vii., and also Apollodorus in his Ethics. and Chrysippus. For, say they, such things (as life, health, and pleasure) are not in themselves goods, but are morally indifferent, though falling under the species or subdivision “things preferred.”
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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, Book VII, tr. R. D. Hicks (Loeb, 1925). Text: Perseus Digital Library (CC BY-SA 4.0). Sources and licences

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Only qualities of character such as wisdom, justice, courage and self-control count as true goods, and their opposites as true evils. Life, health, pleasure, beauty, money and reputation, and their opposites, are neither good nor bad in themselves because they do not make you a better or worse person.

Older wording

“morally indifferent”
— neither good nor bad in itself for your character
“things preferred”
— things that are naturally worth choosing but are not true goods
“ignominy”
— public disgrace

Themes and situations

  • Virtue and character
  • Wealth and poverty
  • What is in our control
  • Money, status and wanting more

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