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Diogenes Laërtius · fl. 3rd century CE

Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.117 — Diogenes Laërtius on the Stoics

Translation by R. D. Hicks (1925)

Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.117

Reported speech · Diogenes Laërtius on the Stoics

Now they say that the wise man is passionless, because he is not prone to fall into such infirmity. But they add that in another sense the term apathy is applied to the bad man, when, that is, it means that he is callous and relentless. Further, the wise man is said to be free from vanity; for he is indifferent to good or evil report. However, he is not alone in this, there being another who is also free from vanity, he who is ranged among the rash, and that is the bad man. Again, they tell us that all good men are austere or harsh, because they neither have dealings with pleasure themselves nor tolerate those who have. The term harsh is applied, however, to others as well, and in much the same sense as a wine is said to be harsh when it is employed medicinally and not for drinking at all.
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The wise person is free of destructive passions because they are not prone to them, which is different from being callous. They are also free of vanity because praise and blame mean nothing to them, and they are austere in not indulging in pleasure or tolerating those who do.

Older wording

“apathy”
— freedom from disturbing passions, not coldness
“austere”
— strict and plain, avoiding indulgence
“relentless”
— pitiless, unyielding

Themes and situations

  • Emotions and the passions
  • Pride and humility
  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Virtue and character

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