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Diogenes Laërtius · fl. 3rd century CE

Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.189 — Diogenes Laërtius on Chrysippus

Translation by R. D. Hicks (1925)

Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.189

Reported speech · Diogenes Laërtius on Chrysippus

“And yet what reason is there that he should provide a living? For if it be to support life, life itself is after all a thing indifferent. If it be for pleasure, pleasure too is a thing indifferent. While if it be for virtue, virtue in itself is sufficient to constitute happiness. The modes of getting a livelihood are also ludicrous, as e.g. maintenance by a king; for he will have to be humoured: or by friends; for friendship will then be purchasable for money: or living by wisdom; for so wisdom will become mercenary.” These are the objections urged against him. As the reputation of his writings stands so high, I have decided to make a separate catalogue of them, arranged according to the class of subject treated. And they are as follows: I. Logic. Logical Theses. The Philosopher’s Inquiries. Dialectical Definitions addressed to Metrodorus, six books. On the Terms used in Dialectic, addressed to Zeno, one book.
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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.189 (on Chrysippus), tr. R. D. Hicks (1925)

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Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, Book VII, tr. R. D. Hicks (Loeb, 1925). Text: Perseus Digital Library (CC BY-SA 4.0). Sources and licences

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Why should a wise person bother to earn a living? Life and pleasure are indifferent and virtue alone is enough for happiness. Every way of earning is awkward, since a royal patron must be flattered, friends supporting you make friendship something bought, and selling wisdom makes it mercenary. The rest begins a catalogue of his writings on logic.

Older wording

“mercenary”
— motivated only by money
“humoured”
— flattered and indulged
“ludicrous”
— absurd, ridiculous

Themes and situations

  • Wealth and poverty
  • Virtue and character
  • Friendship
  • Freedom

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