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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Benefits 3.38 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1887)

Seneca, On Benefits 3.38

There are instances without number of men who have saved their parents from danger, have raised them from the lowest to the highest station, and, taking them from the nameless mass of the lower classes, have given them a name glorious throughout all ages. By no force of words, by no power of genius, can one rightly express how desirable, how admirable, how never to be erased from human memory it is to be able to say, “I obeyed my parents, I gave way to them, I was submissive to their authority whether it was just, or unjust and harsh; the only point in which I resisted them was, not to be conquered by them in benefits.” Continue this struggle, I beg of you, and even though weary, yet re-form your ranks. Happy are they who conquer, happy are they who are conquered. What can be more glorious than the youth who can say to himself—it would not be right to say it to another—“I have conquered my father with benefits”? What is more fortunate than that old man who declares everywhere to everyone that he has been conquered in benefits by his son? What, again, is more blissful than to be overcome in such a contest?
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A child can honour their parents by respecting and yielding to them even when they are harsh or unfair, while still trying to give back more than they were given. Both sides come out happy in this contest, the child who outdoes the parent and the parent who is gladly outdone.

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  • Family and love
  • Gratitude
  • Kindness and forgiveness
  • Virtue and character
  • Parenting
  • Family conflict

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