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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Benefits 4.26 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1887)

Seneca, On Benefits 4.26

“If,” our adversary may say, “you wish to imitate the gods, then bestow benefits upon the ungrateful as well as the grateful; for the sun rises upon the wicked as well as the good, the seas are open even to pirates.” By this question he really asks whether a good man would bestow a benefit upon an ungrateful person, knowing him to be ungrateful. Allow me here to introduce a short explanation, that we may not be taken in by a deceitful question. Understand that according to the system of the Stoics there are two classes of ungrateful persons. One man is ungrateful because he is a fool; a fool is a bad man; a man who is bad possesses every vice: therefore he is ungrateful. In the same way we speak of all bad men as dissolute, avaricious, luxurious, and spiteful, not because each man has all these vices in any great or remarkable degree, but because he might have them; they are in him, even though they be not seen. The second form of ungrateful person is he who is commonly meant by the term, one who is inclined by nature to this vice. In the case of him who has the vice of ingratitude just as he has every other, a wise man will bestow a benefit, because if he sets aside all such men there will be no one left for him to bestow it on. As for the ungrateful man who habitually misapplies benefits and acts so by choice, he will no more bestow a benefit upon him than he would lend money to a spendthrift, or place a deposit in the hands of one who had already often refused to many persons to give up the property with which they had entrusted him.
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Seneca, On Benefits 4.26, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1887)

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By the strict Stoic definition every foolish person is ungrateful in some sense, so refusing all such people would leave nobody to help. The practical rule is to keep helping ordinary flawed people, but not someone who habitually and deliberately misuses help, just as you would not lend to a spendthrift or leave a deposit with someone who refuses to return it.

Older wording

“dissolute”
— lacking moral restraint
“avaricious”
— greedy
“spendthrift”
— someone who wastes money

Themes and situations

  • Virtue and character
  • Kindness and forgiveness
  • Gratitude
  • Judgements and impressions
  • Justice and fairness
  • A hard decision
  • Betrayal

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