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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Benefits 5.10 ¶2 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1887)

Seneca, On Benefits 5.10 ¶2

If this be so, no one ever gave himself a benefit, because no one gives to himself; if not, two opposites coalesce, so that it becomes the same thing to give and to receive. Yet there is a great difference between giving and receiving; how should there not be, seeing that these words are the converse of one another? Still, if anyone can give himself a benefit, there can be no difference between giving and receiving. I said a little before that some words apply only to other persons, and are so constituted that their whole meaning lies apart from ourselves; for instance, I am a brother, but a brother of some other man, for no one is his own brother; I am an equal, but equal to somebody else, for who is equal to himself? A thing which is compared to another thing is unintelligible without that other thing; a thing which is joined to something else does not exist apart from it; so that which is given does not exist without the other person, nor can a benefit have any existence without another person. This is clear from the very phrase which describes it, “to do good,” yet no one does good to himself, any more than he favours himself or is on his own side. I might enlarge further upon this subject and give many examples. Why should benefits not be included among those acts which require two persons to perform them? Many honourable, most admirable and highly virtuous acts cannot take place without a second person. Fidelity is praised and held to be one of the chief blessings known among men, yet was anyone ever on that account said to have kept faith with himself?
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Seneca, On Benefits 5.10 ¶2, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1887)

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Some words only make sense between two people, like brother, equal or faithful, and the same is true of doing someone good. Giving and receiving are opposites, so one person cannot do both to himself, just as nobody keeps faith with himself.

Older wording

“coalesce”
— merge into one
“converse”
— the opposite

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  • Kindness and forgiveness
  • Gratitude
  • Virtue and character

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