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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Benefits 5.25 ¶1 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1887)

Seneca, On Benefits 5.25 ¶1

In this case, what ought he to have done? Because his commander’s memory was confused by a multitude of incidents, and because his position as the leader of vast armies did not permit him to notice individual soldiers, ought the man not to have asked for a return for the benefit which he had conferred? To act as he did is not so much to ask for a return as to take it when it lies in a convenient position ready for us, although we have to stretch out our hands in order to receive it. I shall therefore ask for the return of a benefit, whenever I am either reduced to great straits, or where by doing so I shall act to the advantage of him from whom I ask it. Tiberius Caesar, when someone addressed him with the words, “Do you remember…?” answered, before the man could mention any further proofs of former acquaintance, “I do not remember what I was.” Why should it not be forbidden to demand of this man repayment of former favours? He had a motive for forgetting them: he denied all knowledge of his friends and comrades, and wished men only to see, to think, and to speak of him as emperor. He regarded his old friend as an impertinent meddler.
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Seneca, On Benefits 5.25 ¶1, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1887)

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You may ask for a favour to be returned when you are in real difficulty, or when asking will help the other person. Powerful people may truly forget what they owe, or pretend to, because they want to be seen only in their new rank, as when Tiberius brushed off an old acquaintance by saying he did not remember what he had been.

Older wording

“impertinent”
— rude, presumptuous
“straits”
— difficulties, hardship

Themes and situations

  • Gratitude
  • Friendship
  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Pride and humility
  • Leadership and power
  • Handling success
  • Trouble with a friend

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