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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Benefits 6.22 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1887)

Seneca, On Benefits 6.22

“Well,” says he, “let them stop, if it be possible.” What you say is this:—“Let all those heavenly bodies, placed as they are at vast distances from each other, and arranged to preserve the balance of the universe, leave their appointed posts: let sudden confusion arise, so that constellations may collide with constellations, that the established harmony of all things may be destroyed and the works of God be shaken into ruin; let the whole frame of the rapidly moving heavenly bodies abandon in mid career those movements which we were assured would endure for ages, and let those which now by their regular advance and retreat keep the world at a moderate temperature, be instantly consumed by fire, so that instead of the infinite variety of the seasons all may be reduced to one uniform condition; let fire rage everywhere, followed by dull night, and let the bottomless abyss swallow up all the gods.” Is it worth while to destroy all this merely in order to refute you? Even though you do not wish it, they do you good, and they wheel in their courses for your sake, though their motion may be due to some earlier and more important cause.
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To prove the objector wrong we would have to imagine the whole heavens thrown into chaos, which is absurd. The heavenly bodies go on benefiting us whether or not we wish it, even though their motion may come from some earlier and greater cause.

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  • Nature and the cosmos
  • Gratitude

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