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Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE

On Duties 2.20 — Cicero (on the Stoics)

Translation by Walter Miller (1913)

Cicero (on the Stoics), On Duties 2.20

But think, on the one side, of the destruction of armies (three lately, and many others at many different times), the loss of generals (of a very able and eminent commander recently), the hatred of the masses, too, and the banishment that as a consequence frequently comes to men of eminent services, their degradation and voluntary exile; think, on the other hand, of the successes, the civil and military honours, and the victories;—though all these contain an element of chance, still they cannot be brought about, whether for good or for ill, without the influence and the co-operation of our fellow-men. With this understanding of the influence of Fortune, I may proceed to explain how we can win the affectionate co-operation of our fellows and enlist it in our service. And if the discussion of this point is unduly prolonged, let the length be compared with the importance of the object in view. It will then, perhaps, seem even too short.
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Whether luck brings ruin or triumph, such as armies destroyed, leaders lost, popular hatred and exile on one side, or victories and honours on the other, it always runs through other people's hostility or cooperation. That is why winning their goodwill deserves a thorough discussion.

Older wording

“banishment”
— being forced to leave one's country
“eminent”
— distinguished and highly regarded

Themes and situations

  • Adversity and hardship
  • Community and our duty to others
  • Exile and loss of home
  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • A career setback

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