Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE
On Duties 3.77 — Cicero (on the Stoics)
Translation by Walter Miller (1913)
Cicero (on the Stoics), On Duties 3.77
When I was a boy, I used to hear my father tell that Gaius Fimbria, an ex-consul, was judge in a case of Marcus Lutatius Pinthia, a Roman knight of irreproachable character. On that occasion Pinthia had laid a wager to be forfeited "if he did not prove in court that he was a good man." Fimbria declared that he would never render a decision in such a case, for fear that he might either rob a reputable man of his good name, if he decided against him, or be thought to have pronounced someone a good man, when such a character is, as he said, established by the performance of countless duties and the possession of praiseworthy qualities without number. To this type of good man, then, known not only to a Socrates but even to a Fimbria, nothing can possibly seem expedient that is not morally right. Such a man, therefore, will never venture to think—to say nothing of doing—anything that he would not dare openly to proclaim. Is it not a shame that philosophers should be in doubt about moral questions on which even peasants have no doubts at all? For it is with peasants that the proverb, already trite with age, originated: when they praise a man's honour and honesty, they say, "He is a man with whom you can safely play at odd and even in the dark." What is the point of the proverb but this—that what is not proper brings no advantage, even if you can gain your end without anyone's being able to convict you of wrong?
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Cicero (on the Stoics), On Duties 3.77, tr. Walter Miller (1913)
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Cicero, On Duties (De Officiis), tr. Walter Miller (Loeb, 1913). Text: Perseus Digital Library (CC BY-SA 4.0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesA good name is earned through countless dutiful acts, which is why a judge once refused to declare anyone a good man outright. A genuinely good person never thinks of doing anything they would not be willing to announce openly, and the peasants' saying about a man you can trust to play odd and even in the dark shows that ordinary people already know wrongdoing brings no advantage even when undetected.
Older wording
- “odd and even”
- — a guessing game played with hidden coins or stones
- “trite”
- — overused
- “Roman knight”
- — a member of Rome's wealthy equestrian class
Themes and situations
- Virtue and character
- Reputation and others' opinions
- Justice and fairness
- An ethical dilemma
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