Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE
On the Firmness of the Wise Person 1 — Seneca
Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)
Seneca, On the Firmness of the Wise Person 1
I might truly say, Serenus, that there is as wide a difference between the Stoics and the other sects of philosophers as there is between men and women, since each class contributes an equal share to human society, but the one is born to command, the other to obey. The other philosophers deal with us gently and coaxingly, just as our accustomed family physicians usually do with our bodies, treating them not by the best and shortest method, but by that which we allow them to employ; whereas the Stoics adopt a manly course, and do not care about its appearing attractive to those who are entering upon it, but that it should as quickly as possible take us out of the world, and lead us to that lofty eminence which is so far beyond the scope of any missile weapon that it is above the reach of Fortune herself. “But the way by which we are asked to climb is steep and uneven.” What then? Can heights be reached by a level path? Yet they are not so sheer and precipitous as some think. It is only the first part that has rocks and cliffs and no apparent outlet, just as many hills seen from a long way off appear abruptly steep and joined together, because the distance deceives our sight, and then, as we draw nearer, those very hills which our mistaken eyes had made into one gradually unfold themselves, those parts which seemed precipitous from afar assume a gently sloping outline. When just now mention was made of Marcus Cato, you whose mind revolts at injustice were indignant at Cato’s own age having so little understood him, at its having allotted a place below Vatinius to one who towered above both Caesar and Pompeius; it seemed shameful to you, that when he spoke against some law in the forum his toga was torn from him, and that he was hustled through the hands of a mutinous mob from the Rostra as far as the arch of Fabius, enduring all the bad language, spitting, and other insults of the frantic rabble.
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Seneca, On the Firmness of the Wise Person 1, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1889)
https://whatwouldstoicsdo.com/passage/on-the-firmness-of-the-wise-person/1
Seneca, Dialogues, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1887–1889). Text: Standard Ebooks (CC0). Sources and licences
In plain English
AI-written notesStoicism offers a demanding, manly path rather than a comforting one, aiming to lift you beyond the reach of Fortune. The climb looks steeper from far away than it is up close, and only the first stretch is rough. Cato's humiliation by a jeering mob is introduced as the test case.
Older wording
- “Rostra”
- — the speakers' platform in the Roman Forum
- “toga”
- — a Roman citizen's formal robe
- “missile weapon”
- — any thrown or shot weapon
Themes and situations
- Learning and progress
- Virtue and character
- Insult and criticism
- Resilience and endurance
- What is in our control
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