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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On the Firmness of the Wise Person 7 ¶1 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)

Seneca, On the Firmness of the Wise Person 7 ¶1

You have no cause for saying, as you are wont to do, that this wise man of ours is nowhere to be found; we do not invent him as an unreal glory of the human race, or conceive a mighty shadow of an untruth, but we have displayed and will display him just as we sketch him, though he may perhaps be uncommon, and only one appears at long intervals; for what is great and transcends the common ordinary type is not often produced; but this very Marcus Cato himself, the mention of whom started this discussion, was a man who I fancy even surpassed our model. Moreover, that which hurts must be stronger than that which is hurt. Now wickedness is not stronger than virtue; therefore the wise man cannot be hurt. Only the bad attempt to injure the good. Good men are at peace among themselves; bad ones are equally mischievous to the good and to one another. If a man cannot be hurt by one weaker than himself, and a bad man be weaker than a good one, and the good have no injury to dread, except from one unlike themselves; then, no injury takes effect upon the wise man; for by this time I need not remind you that no one save the wise man is good.
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Defends the wise person as a real if rare ideal, with Cato as a person who surpassed even the model. Then argues that harm needs something stronger than its target and vice is never stronger than virtue, so only someone unlike the good person could even try to hurt him.

Older wording

“mischievous”
— harmful, malicious

Themes and situations

  • Virtue and character
  • Learning and progress
  • Insult and criticism
  • What is in our control

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