Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE
Tusculan Disputations 1 ¶135 — Cicero (on the Stoics)
From “On the Contempt of Death”
Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)
Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 1 ¶135
For Neptune shall sooner bury Salamis itself with his waters than the memory of the trophies gained there, and the Boeotian Leuctra shall perish sooner than the glory of that great battle. And longer still shall fame be before it deserts Curius, and Fabricius, and Calatinus, and the two Scipios, and the two Africani, and Maximus, and Marcellus, and Paulus, and Cato, and Laelius, and numberless other heroes. And whoever has caught any resemblance of them, not estimating it by common fame, but by the real applause of good men, may with confidence, when the occasion requires, approach death, on which we are sure that even if the chief good is not continued, at least no evil is. Such a man would even wish to die while in prosperity, for all the favors that could be heaped on him would not be so agreeable to him as the loss of them would be painful. That speech of the Lacedaemonian seems to have the same meaning, who, when Diagoras the Rhodian, who had himself been a conqueror at the Olympic games, saw two of his own sons conquerors there on the same day, approached the old man, and, congratulating him, said, “You should die now, Diagoras, for no greater happiness can possibly await you.” The Greeks look on these as great things; perhaps they think too highly of them, or, rather, they did so then. And so he who said this to Diagoras, looking on it as something very glorious, that three men out of one family should have been conquerors there, thought it could answer no purpose to him to continue any longer in life, where he could only be exposed to a reverse of fortune.
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Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 1 ¶135, tr. C. D. Yonge (1853)
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In plain English
AI-written notesPeople who truly resemble the great heroes of the past, judged by the real approval of good people rather than public fame, can approach death with confidence, knowing it brings at worst no evil. The story of Diagoras, told that he could die happy after both sons won at the Olympics, reflects the view that prosperity is precarious and any further life only risks a reversal.
Older wording
- “conquerors”
- — winners of the games
Themes and situations
- Death and mortality
- Reputation and others' opinions
- Ambition and success
- Change and impermanence
- Handling success
- Fear of death