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Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE

Tusculan Disputations 3 ¶23 — Cicero (on the Stoics)

From “On Grief of Mind”

Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)

Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 3 ¶23

The whole cause, then, is in opinion. And this observation applies not to this grief alone, but to every other disorder of the mind, which are of four sorts but consisting of many parts. For as every disorder or perturbation is a motion of the mind, either devoid of reason, or in despite of reason, or in disobedience to reason, and as that motion is excited by an opinion of either good or evil; these four perturbations are divided equally into two parts: for two of them proceed from an opinion of good, one of which is an exulting pleasure, that is to say a joy elated beyond measure, arising from an opinion of some present great good; the other is a desire which may fairly be called even a lust, and is an immoderate inclination after some conceived great good without any obedience to reason. Therefore these two kinds, the exulting pleasure and the lust, have their rise from an opinion of good, as the other two, fear and grief, have from an opinion of evil. For fear is an opinion of some great evil impending over us, and grief is an opinion of some great evil present; and, indeed, it is a freshly conceived opinion of an evil so great that to grieve at it seems right: it is of that kind that he who is uneasy at it thinks he has good reason to be so. Now we should exert our utmost efforts to oppose these perturbations—which are, as it were, so many furies let loose upon us and urged on by folly—if we are desirous to pass this share of life that is allotted to us with ease and satisfaction. But of the other feelings I shall speak elsewhere: our business at present is to drive away grief if we can, for that shall be the object of our present discussion, since you have said that it was your opinion that a wise man might be subject to grief, which I can by no means allow of; for it is a frightful, miserable, and detestable thing, which we should fly from with our utmost efforts—with all our sails and oars, as I may say.
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All four big emotional disturbances, which are wild joy, craving, fear and grief, come from a belief about good or evil: joy and craving from a belief that something great is good, fear from a belief that a great evil is coming, and grief from a belief that a great evil has just arrived. If the cause lies in belief and not in events themselves, then grief and fear can be tackled by questioning that belief.

Older wording

“perturbations”
— disturbing emotions
“exulting pleasure”
— over-the-top, excited joy
“lust”
— an unreasoning craving for something

Themes and situations

  • Judgements and impressions
  • Emotions and the passions
  • Grief and mourning
  • Fear and anxiety
  • Desire and craving
  • Anxiety about the future

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