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Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE

Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶47 — Cicero (on the Stoics)

From “Whether Virtue Alone Be Sufficient for a Happy Life”

Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)

Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶47

Yet how desirous he was of friendship, though at the same time he dreaded the treachery of friends, appears from the story of those two Pythagoreans: one of these had been security for his friend, who was condemned to die; the other, to release his security, presented himself at the time appointed for his dying. “I wish,” said Dionysius, “you would admit me as the third in your friendship.” What misery was it for him to be deprived of acquaintance, of company at his table, and of the freedom of conversation! especially for one who was a man of learning, and from his childhood acquainted with liberal arts, very fond of music, and himself a tragic poet. (How good a one is not to the purpose, for I know not how it is, but in this way, more than any other, everyone thinks his own performances excellent. I never as yet knew any poet, and I was very intimate with Aquinius, who did not appear to himself to be very admirable. The case is this: you are pleased with your own works; I like mine.) But to return to Dionysius. He debarred himself from all civil and polite conversation, and spent his life among fugitives, bondmen, and barbarians, for he was persuaded that no one could be his friend who was worthy of liberty, or had the least desire of being free.
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The tyrant Dionysius craved friendship yet feared betrayal so much that he lived without real company, so when he saw two friends willing to die for each other he begged to be a third. Power built on injustice leaves a person isolated, because no one free and worthy will befriend a ruler who governs by fear.

Older wording

“bondmen”
— slaves or people held in bondage
“debarred”
— shut out or excluded
“liberal arts”
— the studies proper to a free person

Themes and situations

  • Friendship
  • Leadership and power
  • Fear and anxiety
  • Freedom
  • Solitude and retreat
  • Loneliness
  • Betrayal
  • Leading others

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