Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE
Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶65 — Cicero (on the Stoics)
From “Whether Virtue Alone Be Sufficient for a Happy Life”
Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)
Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶65
“What less than this,” says Aristotle, “could be inscribed on the tomb, not of a king, but an ox?” He said that he possessed those things when dead, which, in his lifetime, he could have no longer than while he was enjoying them. Why, then, are riches desired? And wherein does poverty prevent us from being happy? In the want, I imagine, of statues, pictures, and diversions. But if anyone is delighted with these things, have not the poor people the enjoyment of them more than they who are the owners of them in the greatest abundance? For we have great numbers of them displayed publicly in our city. And whatever store of them private people have, they cannot have a great number, and they but seldom see them, only when they go to their country seats; and some of them must be stung to the heart when they consider how they came by them. The day would fail me, should I be inclined to defend the cause of poverty. The thing is manifest; and nature daily informs us how few things there are, and how trifling they are, of which she really stands in need.
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Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶65, tr. C. D. Yonge (1853)
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In plain English
AI-written notesA rich king who boasted of what he had eaten deserved a tombstone fit for an ox, since riches only give you what you can enjoy while you are alive. Poverty does not block happiness, because the poor can enjoy public art and entertainments as much as owners can, and nature requires only a few trivial things.
Older wording
- “country seats”
- — rich people's rural estates
- “diversions”
- — entertainments and pastimes
Themes and situations
- Wealth and poverty
- Simplicity and frugality
- Desire and craving
- Pleasure and pain
- Losing money
- Money, status and wanting more
- Envy and comparison
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