Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE
Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶67 — Cicero (on the Stoics)
From “Whether Virtue Alone Be Sufficient for a Happy Life”
Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)
Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶67
If, then, honor and riches have no value, what is there else to be afraid of? Banishment I suppose, which is looked on as the greatest evil. Now, if the evil of banishment proceeds not from ourselves, but from the froward disposition of the people, I have just now declared how contemptible it is. But if to leave one’s country be miserable, the provinces are full of miserable men, very few of the settlers in which ever return to their country again. But exiles are deprived of their property! What, then! has there not been enough said on bearing poverty? But with regard to banishment, if we examine the nature of things, not the ignominy of the name, how little does it differ from constant travelling! in which some of the most famous philosophers have spent their whole life, as Xenocrates, Crantor, Arcesilas, Lacydes, Aristotle, Theophrastus, Zeno, Cleanthes, Chrysippus, Antipater, Carneades, Panaetius, Clitomachus, Philo, Antiochus, Posidonius, and innumerable others, who from their first setting-out never returned home again. Now, what ignominy can a wise man be affected with (for it is of such a one that I am speaking) who can be guilty of nothing which deserves it? for there is no occasion to comfort one who is banished for his deserts. Lastly, they can easily reconcile themselves to every accident who measure all their objects and pursuits in life by the standard of pleasure; so that in whatever place that is supplied, there they may live happily. Thus what Teucer said may be applied to every case: Wherever I am happy is my country.
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Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 5 ¶67, tr. C. D. Yonge (1853)
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In plain English
AI-written notesExile is only an evil because of the stigma attached to the word, not because of anything in the experience itself. Strip away the label and it differs little from long-term travel, which many famous philosophers did for their whole lives, and a wise person who has done nothing shameful has no real disgrace to feel. Wherever you can be happy is your homeland.
Older wording
- “froward”
- — stubborn and perverse
- “ignominy”
- — public shame
Themes and situations
- Exile and loss of home
- Acceptance and fate
- Freedom
- Community and our duty to others
- Wealth and poverty
- Moving away or exile
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