St. George Stock (modern guide) · 1850–1922
A Guide to Stoicism 2 ¶3 — St. George Stock (modern guide)
From “Division of Philosophy”
Original English text (1908)
St. George Stock (modern guide), A Guide to Stoicism 2 ¶3
Plutarch twits Chrysippus with inconsistency, because in the face of this declaration as to the order of treatment, he nevertheless says that morals rest upon physics. But to this charge it may fairly be replied that the order of exposition need not coincide with the order of existence. Metaphysically speaking, morals may depend upon physics and the right conduct of man be deducible from the structure of the universe but for all that, it may be advisable to study physics later. Physics meant the nature of God and the Universe. Our nature may be deducible from that but it is better known to ourselves to start with, so that it may be well to begin from the end of the stick that we have in our hands. But that Chrysippus did teach the logical dependence of morals on physics is plain from his own words. In his third book on the Gods he says 'for it is not possible to find any other origin of justice or mode of its generation save that from Zeus and the nature of the universe for anything we have to say about good and evil must needs derive its origin therefrom', and again in his Physical Theses, 'for there is no other or more appropriate way of approaching the subject of good and evil on the virtues or happiness than from the nature of all things and the administration of the universe--for it is to these we must attach the treatment of good and evil inasmuch as there is no better origin to which we can refer them and inasmuch as physical speculation is taken in solely with a view to the distinction between good and evil.'
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In plain English
AI-written notesA critic accused Chrysippus of contradicting himself by studying physics last while saying ethics rests on physics, but the order of teaching need not match the order of dependence. For Chrysippus, good and evil and justice can only be understood from the nature of the universe.
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- “twits”
- — teases or reproaches
- “administration of the universe”
- — the way the cosmos is governed
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- Nature and the cosmos
- Learning and progress
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