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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 1.24 ¶3 — Epictetus

From “How We Should Struggle with Circumstances”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 1.24 ¶3

“What then shall I do?” What do you do when you leave a ship? Do you take away the helm or the oars? What then do you take away? You take what is your own, your bottle and your wallet; and now if you think of what is your own, you will never claim what belongs to others. The emperor (Domitian) says, “Lay aside your laticlave.” See, I put on the angusticlave. “Lay aside this also.” See, I have only my toga. “Lay aside your toga.” See, I am now naked. “But you still raise my envy.” Take then all my poor body; when, at a man’s command, I can throw away my poor body, do I still fear him?
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Epictetus, Discourses 1.24 ¶3, tr. George Long (1877)

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When you leave a ship you take what is your own and nothing else. If a ruler strips you of your rank, your clothes and finally everything, you still have only lost what was never yours, so a person who is ready to lose even the body has nothing left to fear from him.

Older wording

“laticlave”
— a tunic with a broad purple stripe, the mark of a senator
“angusticlave”
— a tunic with a narrow stripe, worn by the lower rank of knights
“toga”
— the formal outer garment of a Roman citizen

Themes and situations

  • Simplicity and frugality
  • Fear and anxiety
  • Courage
  • Freedom
  • What is in our control
  • Losing a job
  • Losing money
  • A difficult boss

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