Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 3.12 ¶2 — Epictetus
From “About Exercise”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 3.12 ¶2
I am rather inclined to pleasure: I will incline to the contrary side above measure for the sake of exercise. I am averse to pain: I will rub and exercise against this the appearances which are presented to me for the purpose of withdrawing my aversion from every such thing. For who is a practitioner in exercise? He who practices not using his desire, and applies his aversion only to things which are within the power of his will, and practices most in the things which are difficult to conquer. For this reason one man must practice himself more against one thing and another against another thing. What then is it to the purpose to set up a palm tree, or to carry about a tent of skins, or a mortar and pestle? Practice, man, if you are irritable, to endure if you are abused, not to be vexed if you are treated with dishonor. Then you will make so much progress that, even if a man strikes you you will say to yourself, “Imagine that you have embraced a statue”: then also exercise yourself to use wine properly so as not to drink much, for in this also there are men who foolishly practice themselves; but first of all you should abstain from it, and abstain from a young girl and dainty cakes. Then at last, if occasion presents itself, for the purpose of trying yourself at a proper time you will descend into the arena to know if appearances overpower you as they did formerly. But at first fly far from that which is stronger than yourself: the contest is unequal between a charming young girl and a beginner in philosophy. The earthen pitcher, as the saying is, and the rock do not agree.
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.12 ¶2, tr. George Long (1877)
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In plain English
AI-written notesTrain against your own weak spot by leaning the other way: if you are drawn to pleasure, practise doing without, and if you are irritable, practise taking abuse and disrespect calmly, as if you had hugged a statue. A beginner should keep away from temptations stronger than they are and only test themselves later, once they are ready.
Older wording
- “appearances”
- — the impressions that present themselves to your mind
- “descend into the arena”
- — test yourself in the real situation
Themes and situations
- Self-discipline and habit
- Anger
- Insult and criticism
- Pleasure and pain
- Learning and progress
- Breaking a bad habit
- Being criticised or insulted
- Being angry with someone
- Everyday irritations
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