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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 3.22 ¶11 — Epictetus

From “About Cynism”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 3.22 ¶11

When the young man asked, if “when a Cynic has fallen sick, and a friend asks him to come to his house and to be taken care of in his sickness, shall the Cynic accept the invitation,” he replied: And where shall you find, I ask, a Cynic’s friend? For the man who invites ought to be such another as the Cynic that he may be worthy of being reckoned the Cynic’s friend. He ought to be a partner in the Cynic’s sceptre and his royalty, and a worthy minister, if he intends to be considered worthy of a Cynic’s friendship, as Diogenes was a friend of Antisthenes, as Crates was a friend of Diogenes. Do you think that if a man comes to a Cynic and salutes him, that he is the Cynic’s friend, and that the Cynic will think him worthy of receiving a Cynic into his house? So that if you please, reflect on this also: rather look round for some convenient dunghill on which you shall bear your fever and which will shelter you from the north wind that you may not be chilled. But you seem to me to wish to go into some man’s house and to be well fed there for a time. Why then do you think of attempting so great a thing (as the life of a Cynic)?
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Epictetus, Discourses 3.22 ¶11, tr. George Long (1877)

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Asked whether a sick Cynic should accept a friend's offer of care, the reply is that a real Cynic's friend would have to be as committed and tough as he is, as Crates was to Diogenes. Anyone who merely wants a comfortable bed and a few good meals should not pose as fit for that life and might as well look for a sheltered dunghill.

Older wording

“sceptre”
— a ruler's staff, here the symbol of the Cynic's moral kingship
“dunghill”
— a heap of manure, the lowest place to lie

Themes and situations

  • Friendship
  • Illness and the body
  • Pride and humility
  • Duty and roles

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