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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.4 ¶7 — Epictetus

From “To Those Who Are Desirous of Passing Life in Tranquillity”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.4 ¶7

Is it your will that I should go to Rome? I will go to Rome. To Gyara? I will go to Gyara. To Athens? I will go to Athens. To prison? I will go to prison. If you should once say, “When shall a man go to Athens?” you are undone. It is a necessary consequence that this desire, if it is not accomplished, must make you unhappy; and if it is accomplished, it must make you vain, since you are elated at things at which you ought not to be elated; and on the other hand, if you are impeded, it must make you wretched because you fall into that which you would not fall into. Give up then all these things.—“Athens is a good place.”—But happiness is much better; and to be free from passions, free from disturbance, for your affairs not to depend on any man. “There is tumult at Rome and visits of salutation.” But happiness is an equivalent for all troublesome things. If then the time comes for these things, why do you not take away the wish to avoid them? what necessity is there to carry a burden like an ass, and to be beaten with a stick? But if you do not so, consider that you must always be a slave to him who has it in his power to effect your release, and also to impede you, and you must serve him as an evil genius.
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.4 ¶7, tr. George Long (1877)

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Be willing to go wherever circumstances send you, whether Rome, an island of exile or even prison, because wanting a particular place makes you unhappy if you do not get it and vain if you do. Happiness is worth more than any good location, and tying your wish to anything outside yourself makes you a servant of whoever can grant or deny it.

Older wording

“Gyara”
— a barren Aegean island used by Romans as a place of exile
“visits of salutation”
— formal morning visits paid to powerful people
“evil genius”
— a malign guiding spirit

Themes and situations

  • Acceptance and fate
  • Exile and loss of home
  • Desire and craving
  • Freedom
  • What is in our control
  • Moving away or exile
  • A hard decision

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