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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.6 ¶3 — Epictetus

From “Against Those Who Lament Over Being Pitied”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.6 ¶3

Wretched man, will you not see what you are saying about yourself? What do you appear to yourself to be? in your opinions, in your desires, in your aversions from things (ἐν τῷ ἐκκλίνειν), in your movements (purposes, ἐν ὁρμῇ) in your preparation (for anything), in your designs (plans), and in other acts suitable to a man? But do you trouble yourself about this, whether others pity you?—“Yes, but I am pitied not as I ought to be.”—Are you then pained at this? and is he who is pained, an object of pity?—“Yes.”—How then are you pitied not as you ought to be? For by the very act that you feel (suffer) about being pitied, you make yourself deserving of pity. What then says Antisthenes? Have you not heard? “It is a royal thing, O Cyrus, to do right (well) and to be ill spoken of.” My head is sound, and all think that I have the headache. What do I care for that? I am free from fever, and people sympathize with me as if I had a fever, (and say), “Poor man, for so long a time you have not ceased to have fever.” I also say with a sorrowful countenance, “In truth it is now a long time that I have been ill.” What will happen then? As God may please: and at the same time I secretly laugh at those who are pitying me. What then hinders the same being done in this case also? I am poor, but I have a right opinion about poverty. Why then do I care if they pity me for my poverty? I am not in power (not a magistrate); but others are: and I have the opinion which I ought to have about having and not having power. Let them look to it who pity me: but I am neither hungry nor thirsty nor do I suffer cold; but because they are hungry or thirsty they think that I too am. What then shall I do for them? Shall I go about and proclaim and say, “Be not mistaken, men, I am very well, I do not trouble myself about poverty, nor want of power, nor in a word about anything else than right opinions. These I have free from restraint, I care for nothing at all.”—What foolish talk is this? How do I possess right opinions when I am not content with being what I am, but am uneasy about what I am supposed to be?
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Other people's pity or low opinion only hurts if you secretly agree with it. If you hold the right view about poverty, illness or lack of power, you can let people think what they like, and being anxious about how you look to them shows you do not yet hold that view.

Older wording

“aversions”
— the things you try to avoid or push away
“countenance”
— facial expression

Themes and situations

  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Judgements and impressions
  • Insult and criticism
  • What is in our control
  • Being criticised or insulted
  • A career setback

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