Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE
Discourses 4.7 ¶5 — Epictetus
From “On Freedom from Fear”
Translation by George Long (1877)
Epictetus, Discourses 4.7 ¶5
Show me the swords of the guards. See how big they are, and how sharp. What then do these big and sharp swords do? They kill. And what does a fever do? Nothing else. And what else a (falling) tile? Nothing else. Would you then have me to wonder at these things and worship them, and go about as the slave of all of them? I hope that this will not happen: but when I have once learned that everything which has come into existence must also go out of it, that the universe may not stand still nor be impeded, I no longer consider it any difference whether a fever shall do it or a tile, or a soldier. But if a man must make a comparison between these things, I know that the soldier will do it with less trouble (to me), and quicker. When then I neither fear anything which a tyrant can do to me, nor desire anything which he can give, why do I still look on with wonder (admiration)? Why am I still confounded? Why do I fear the guards? Why am I pleased if he speaks to me in a friendly way, and receives me, and why do I tell others how he spoke to me? Is he a Socrates, is he a Diogenes that his praise should be a proof of what I am? Have I been eager to imitate his morals? But I keep up the play and go to him, and serve him so long as he does not bid me to do anything foolish or unreasonable. But if he says to me, “Go and bring Leon of Salamis,” I say to him, “Seek another, for I am no longer playing.” (The tyrant says): “Lead him away (to prison).” I follow; that is part of the play. “But your head will be taken off!”—Does the tyrant’s head always remain where it is, and the heads of you who obey him?—“But you will be cast out unburied.”—If the corpse is I, I shall be cast out; but if I am different from the corpse, speak more properly according as the fact is, and do not think of frightening me. These things are formidable to children and fools. But if any man has once entered a philosopher’s school and knows not what he is, he deserves to be full of fear and to flatter those whom afterwards he used to flatter; (and) if he has not yet learned that he is not flesh nor bones nor sinews (νεῦρα), but he is that which makes use of these parts of the body and governs there and follows (understands) the appearances of things.
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Epictetus, Discourses 4.7 ¶5, tr. George Long (1877)
https://whatwouldstoicsdo.com/passage/discourses/4.7.5
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In plain English
AI-written notesA tyrant's sword kills no differently than a fever or a falling roof tile, and nobody worships those. Play your part for those in power, but refuse any order to do something wrong, and do not be frightened by threats to your body, because you are the mind that uses the body and not the body itself.
Older wording
- “Leon of Salamis”
- — an innocent man the Thirty Tyrants ordered Socrates to arrest, which he refused
- “appearances”
- — the impressions your mind receives of things
Themes and situations
- Fear and anxiety
- Death and mortality
- Courage
- Freedom
- Justice and fairness
- Fear of death
- An ethical dilemma
- A difficult boss
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