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Diogenes Laërtius · fl. 3rd century CE

Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.89 — Diogenes Laërtius on the Stoics

Translation by R. D. Hicks (1925)

Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers 7.89

Reported speech · Diogenes Laërtius on the Stoics

By the nature with which our life ought to be in accord, Chrysippus understands both universal nature and more particularly the nature of man, whereas Cleanthes takes the nature of the universe alone as that which should be followed, without adding the nature of the individual. And virtue, he holds, is a harmonious disposition, choice-worthy for its own sake and not from hope or fear or any external motive. Moreover, it is in virtue that happiness consists; for virtue is the state of mind which tends to make the whole of life harmonious. When a rational being is perverted, this is due to the deceptiveness of external pursuits or sometimes to the influence of associates. For the starting-points of nature are never perverse.
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Virtue is a harmonious state of mind worth choosing for itself, not for hope of reward or fear of punishment, and happiness consists in it. When a reasonable person goes wrong, it is because outward pursuits deceive them or because of bad company, since the starting points of nature are never twisted.

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“choice-worthy”
— worth choosing
“disposition”
— a settled state of mind or character
“perverse”
— twisted or turned away from what is right

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  • Virtue and character
  • Nature and the cosmos
  • Desire and craving
  • An ethical dilemma
  • Money, status and wanting more

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