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Seneca · c. 4 BCE – 65 CE

On Anger 2.8 — Seneca

Translation by Aubrey Stewart (1889)

Seneca, On Anger 2.8

Why need I dwell upon individual cases? Be assured, when you see the forum crowded with a multitude, the Saepta swarming with people, or the great Circus, in which the greater part of the people find room to show themselves at once, that among them there are as many vices as there are men. Among those whom you see in the garb of peace there is no peace: for a small profit any one of them will attempt the ruin of another: no one can gain anything save by another’s loss. They hate the fortunate and despise the unfortunate: they grudgingly endure the great, and oppress the small: they are fired by diverse lusts: they would wreck everything for the sake of a little pleasure or plunder: they live as though they were in a school of gladiators, fighting with the same people with whom they live: it is like a society of wild beasts, save that beasts are tame with one another, and refrain from biting their own species, whereas men tear one another, and gorge themselves upon one another. They differ from dumb animals in this alone, that the latter are tame with those who feed them, whereas the rage of the former preys on those very persons by whom they were brought up.
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Seneca, On Anger 2.8, tr. Aubrey Stewart (1889)

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In any crowded forum or arena you find as many vices as people: neighbours who would ruin each other for a small profit, who hate the lucky and despise the unlucky, and who tear at one another worse than beasts. This sets the scene for why being angry at human vice is pointless.

Older wording

“Saepta”
— a large voting enclosure in Rome
“Circus”
— a Roman arena for chariot races and shows

Themes and situations

  • Community and our duty to others
  • Anger
  • Virtue and character

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