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Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE

On Duties 1.84 — Cicero (on the Stoics)

Translation by Walter Miller (1913)

Cicero (on the Stoics), On Duties 1.84

Many, on the other hand, have been found who were ready to pour out not only their money but their lives for their country and yet would not consent to make even the slightest sacrifice of personal glory—even though the interests of their country demanded it. For example, when Callicratidas, as Spartan admiral in the Peloponnesian War, had won many signal successes, he spoiled everything at the end by refusing to listen to the proposal of those who thought he ought to withdraw his fleet from the Arginusae and not to risk an engagement with the Athenians. His answer to them was that "the Spartans could build another fleet, if they lost that one, but he could not retreat without dishonour to himself." And yet what he did dealt only a slight blow to Sparta; there was another which proved disastrous, when Cleombrotus in fear of criticism recklessly went into battle against Epaminondas. In consequence of that, the Spartan power fell. How much better was the conduct of Quintus Maximus! Of him Ennius says: "One man—and he alone—restored our state by delaying. Not in the least did fame with him take precedence of safety; Therefore now does his glory shine bright, and it grows ever brighter." This sort of offence must be avoided no less in political life. For there are men who for fear of giving offence do not dare to express their honest opinion, no matter how excellent.
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Some will sacrifice anything for their country except their own glory, and an admiral who refused a sensible retreat for honour's sake lost everything, while another who took reckless action for fear of criticism helped bring about his country's fall. The better model is a general who delayed and put safety before fame. Fear of giving offence also keeps people from stating their honest views.

Older wording

“signal successes”
— notable, major successes
“engagement”
— a battle

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  • Ambition and success
  • Pride and humility
  • Reputation and others' opinions
  • Leadership and power
  • Courage
  • A hard decision
  • Leading others
  • Handling success

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