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Cicero (on the Stoics) · 106–43 BCE

Tusculan Disputations 3 ¶37 — Cicero (on the Stoics)

From “On Grief of Mind”

Translation by C. D. Yonge (1853)

Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 3 ¶37

Is poverty the subject? They tell you of many who have submitted to it with patience. Is it the contempt of honors? They acquaint you with some who never enjoyed any, and were the happier for it; and of those who have preferred a private retired life to public employment, mentioning their names with respect; they tell you of the verse of that most powerful king who praises an old man, and pronounces him happy because he was unknown to fame and seemed likely to arrive at the hour of death in obscurity and without notice. Thus, too, they have examples for those who are deprived of their children: they who are under any great grief are comforted by instances of like affliction, and thus the endurance of every misfortune is rendered more easy by the fact of others having undergone the same, and the fate of others causes what has happened to appear less important than it has been previously thought, and reflection thus discovers to us how much opinion had imposed on us. And this is what the Telamon declares, “I, when my son was born,” etc.; and thus Theseus, “I on my future misery did dwell;” and Anaxagoras, “I knew my son was mortal.” All these men, by frequently reflecting on human affairs, had discovered that they were by no means to be estimated by the opinion of the multitude; and, indeed, it seems to me to be pretty much the same case with those who consider beforehand as with those who derive their remedies from time, excepting that a kind of reason cures the one, and the other remedy is provided by nature; by which we discover (and this contains the whole marrow of the matter) that what was imagined to be the greatest evil is by no means so great as to defeat the happiness of life. And the effect of this is that the blow is greater by reason of its not having been foreseen, and not, as they suppose, that when similar misfortunes befall two different people, that man only is affected with grief whom this calamity has befallen unexpectedly. So that some persons, under the oppression of grief, are said to have borne it actually worse for hearing of this common condition of man, that we are born under such conditions as render it impossible for a man to be exempt from all evil.
— Cicero (on the Stoics), Tusculan Disputations 3 ¶37 · tr. C. D. Yonge (1853)Read in context →

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Examples of people who bore poverty, lost honours or the death of children calmly make your own trouble look smaller and show how much opinion had exaggerated it. Foresight and the slow work of time lead to the same discovery: what seemed the greatest evil does not have to destroy a good life, and the blow is heavier mainly because it was not foreseen.

Older wording

“marrow of the matter”
— the heart of the issue
“multitude”
— the general crowd
“affliction”
— great distress or suffering

Themes and situations

  • Grief and mourning
  • Judgements and impressions
  • Adversity and hardship
  • Resilience and endurance
  • Bereavement
  • Losing money
  • A career setback

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