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Epictetus · c. 50 – c. 135 CE

Discourses 4.1 ¶15 — Epictetus

From “About Freedom”

Translation by George Long (1877)

Epictetus, Discourses 4.1 ¶15

Then after receiving everything from another and even yourself, are you angry and do you blame the giver if he takes anything from you? Who are you, and for what purpose did you come into the world? Did not he (God) introduce you here, did he not show you the light, did he not give you fellow workers, and perceptions and reason? and as whom did he introduce you here? did he not introduce you as subject to death, and as one to live on the earth with a little flesh, and to observe his administration, and to join with him in the spectacle and the festival for a short time? Will you not then, as long as you have been permitted, after seeing the spectacle and the solemnity, when he leads you out, go with adoration of him and thanks for what you have heard and seen?—“No; but I would still enjoy the feast.”—The initiated too would wish to be longer in the initiation: and perhaps also those at Olympia to see other athletes; but the solemnity is ended: go away like a grateful and modest man; make room for others: others also must be born, as you were, and being born they must have a place, and houses and necessary things. And if the first do not retire, what remains? Why are you insatiable? Why are you not content? why do you contract the world?—“Yes, but I would have my little children with me and my wife.”—What, are they yours? do they not belong to the giver, and to him who made you? then will you not give up what belongs to others? will you not give way to him who is superior?—“Why then did he introduce me into the world on these conditions?”—And if the conditions do not suit you, depart. He has no need of a spectator who is not satisfied. He wants those who join in the festival, those who take part in the chorus, that they may rather applaud, admire, and celebrate with hymns the solemnity. But those who can bear no trouble, and the cowardly, he will not unwillingly see absent from the great assembly (πανήγυρις); for they did not when they were present behave as they ought to do at a festival nor fill up their place properly, but they lamented, found fault with the deity, fortune, their companions; not seeing both what they had, and their own powers, which they received for contrary purposes, the powers of magnanimity, of a generous mind, manly spirit, and what we are now inquiring about, freedom.—“For what purpose then have I received these things?”—To use them.—“How long?”—So long as he who has lent them chooses.—“What if they are necessary to me?”—Do not attach yourself to them and they will not be necessary: do not say to yourself that they are necessary, and then they are not necessary.
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AI-written notes

Life is a loan and a festival we are allowed to attend for a while, so when the time comes we should leave with thanks, make room for others and not demand to keep everything. Everything we have, including children and spouse, belongs to the giver, so being angry when it is taken back is ungrateful; the closing image is that anyone unhappy with these terms is free to depart.

Older wording

“the initiated”
— people admitted to a religious mystery cult
“solemnity”
— a grand ceremony
“magnanimity”
— greatness of spirit

Themes and situations

  • Gratitude
  • Death and mortality
  • Change and impermanence
  • Acceptance and fate
  • Family and love
  • Bereavement
  • Fear of death
  • Getting older